Shira Ovide writes the excellent On Tech newsletter at the New York Times. On this episode of The New Bazaar, Shira tells Cardiff about the technology she wants to see in 2022, and whether the potential for technology to better connect the world was oversold. And they chat about the metaverse — as Shira says, “What if we just called the ‘metaverse’ …the internet?” — and the lingering questions about its future.

Also on the show: Do “bits” technologies like social media get too much attention relative to “atoms” technologies that directly influence the physical world? What’s the latest on gaming? What are the psychology lessons of the government’s approach to sending out free Covid tests? How do online creators make a living?